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her journal and other documents to the feds and promised to testify under oath about what happened. >> the fact is that the lieutenant governor came to hoboken, she pulled me aside in the parking lot, and she said, i know it's not right, i know these things should not be connected, they are, and if you tell anyone, i'll deny it. i mean, the bottom line is, it's not fair for the governor to hold sandy funds hostage for the city of hoboken because he wants me to give back to one private developer. >> nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff has been covering this story. michael, you listened to the statement by the lieutenant governor. give us your take on what was said and what maybe wasn't said. >> well, yeah, good point, chris. she denied that there was any threat to withhold sandy funds over this project, but just to be parse carefully, worth pointing out, she acknowledges there was a conversation that she had with mayor zimmer in may of last year.
she didn't address whether she pressed the mayor to support this rockefeller group project that the mayor described in detail on saturday, so whether or not that was a subject of the conversation is an open question. she also didn't take questions. she made it clear, she said, that it's false that any sandy funds were withheld in exchange for not supporting this project or there was any connection, so it's worth looking very carefully at what she said. it is also worth pointing out that what happened last night may be the most significant development here, because the mayor met with the u.s. attorney's office, federal agents would have been there. it would have been a crime for her to lie to those federal agents last night in laying out her account of the conversation. so, inevitably now, the lieutenant governor is going to be questioned, as well, and, you
know, she's going to be getting a lot more detailed questions about her account of that conversation than she just gave to the public. >> what we should say is she did not take any questions when she made this statement in the last hour, and that it is very important to point out that she, the mayor of hoboken and a lot of other people now coming up, who have made statements are now going to have to make those statements under oath, and that's a very different thing. >> right. and the mayor already has made statements to federal agents, because she met with them last night, so that's pretty significant in and of itself. and the fact that the u.s. attorney has opened the door to looking at this, really puts the entire sandy funding of the christie administration now under the purview of a federal investigation. that's a very significant development. >> michael isikoff, thank you. i want to bring in our company, lynn sweet, chicago sun times bureau chief, ruth baucus, good
morning. >> good morning. >> lynn, let me get your take on this. these developments have been moving fast and furious. last night the information that the mayor was meeting with federal officials, this morning, the unequivocal denial by the lieutenant governor. where are we in all this? >> well, it still keeps the cloud over governor christie's head and comes at a time where he was about to elevate himself as a republican helper for the, you know, he's now the head of the republican governor's association and i think that role is beginning to get some more national attention, because she's supposed to be the chief fundraiser and he's now going to be very strapped as a big deal figure to bring in to entertain big donors. we know in florida he had to go around a little bit as if he were -- well, he couldn't do his full christie. the thing that has made people -- >> we didn't see a lot of him. >> right. i think that means he's
handicapped, even in this role as the rga head. so, these kinds of messes, as you know and ruth knows, they don't go away fast, so it's hard to see how he gets ahead of this. >> well, there are on the other side of the equation, ruth, a lot of allegations that dawn zimmer is kind of piling on christie's former democratic challenger. hold on, because we just got the full tape of the lieutenant governor. these are her comments, i want to play them for you and get your reaction on the other side. >> i think in short you need to hear me say this out loud, and i will, in short, mayor zimmer's version of our conversation in may of 2013 is not only false, but is illogical and does not withstand scrutiny when all of the facts are examined. any suggestion, any suggestion, that sandy funds were tied to the approval of any project in
new jersey is completely false. standing in union beach, as we are today, with some of the mayors whose towns were devastated by sandy, and also being a sandy victim myself, makes the mayor's allegations particularly offensive to me. the suggestion that anyone would hold back sandy relief funds for any reason is wholly and completely false. i thought i had a good relationship with the mayor of hoboken. in fact, just three months after
this conversation she said occurred, i was walking on the streets with her in hoboken talking to her about urban markets. just three months after this conversation she said we had. and five months before, she went to msnbc. like i said, i thought we had a good relationship. frankly, i'm surprised that mayor zimmer has chosen to mischaracterize a conversation i had with her about development and job creation in hoboken. i had devoted an extraordinary amount of time to projects, to bringing projects, to creating jobs, and retaining jobs in hoboken. that is my job as the secretary of state and the lieutenant governor. i have visited hoboken no less than 13 times in those efforts. i have worked on many more
projects involving hoboken as part of that job. the one example that stands out, the one that the mayor herself asked me to work on for her is the pierson education building in the skyline on the waterfront of hoboken. the mayor once told me there was an empty hole and she asked me to help her find a company to fill it. and we did. right now, pierson education is in the waterfront, on the waterfront. they've created hundreds of jobs. they've created hundreds of construction jobs. so, yes, i am very surprised by the mayor's allegations, and i deny wholeheartedly those allegations. i proudly support and will continue to support the creation of jobs in hoboken and all of new jersey, and i will continue to work on those projects, but
i'm going to end, and i mean end, by reemphasizing one point, i deny any suggestion made by mayor zimmer that there was ever any condition placed on the release of sandy funds by me. i want to thank you all for coming out, for giving me the opportunity to speak. i look forward to the inquiries. i am sure, absolutely sure, all of the facts will come out. thank you very much. >> ruth marcus, her last statement is something we've heard from a number of people, they look forward to the inquiries, they look forward to all the facts coming out, they look forward to answering questions, although, ruth, as we pointed out, she didn't answer any questions there. your take on where we are right now. >> well, the lieutenant governor told us a lot about what didn't
happen, but she didn't tell us about what did happen from her point of view. if the conversation didn't take place as the hoboken mayor described it, what was the conversation? this is only the beginning of what seems to me from governor christie's point of view to be a very dangerous new chapter in the greater bridge saga. this involves federal funds, it now involves a federal prosecutor, mike isikoff is totally right. the mayor belatedly, absolutely, but has given her statement under oath. if i were the lieutenant governor, i'd make sure i had a lawyer. if i were the republican governor's association, i would be thinking about -- and i don't mean to sound hyperbolic about this, but wonder if governor christie is the right person to head the rga at this time. this story has taken a dangerous turn for the governor. >> lynn, one question we want to touch on quickly, some people
are saying, particularly those within the christie administration, look, she didn't complain at the time, in fact, she has been over the course of the last several months, in fact, complimentary about governor christie. and it's been pointed out there are several possibilities. one is that, frankly, she was protecting herself because she thought that there could be retributions if she didn't say nice things. another possibility is that this is a political piling on. what do you make of these statements, which seem to be contradictory from the beginning of the hoboken mayor until now? >> i think in the end, having covered a lot of corruption in illinois, it doesn't matter when these allegations come out. what matters is what is true and what is not true and what the facts are. this isn't a court that we're in, chris, where you say, well, let's have a mitigating circumstance. she waited weeks before coming out. it doesn't matter. once this, you know, the door is open and she walked through it
and the facts have to stand or fall, and ruth pointed out the very weakness of this lieutenant governor even having this press -- you can't call it a conference, this press event, because she didn't say what happened. saying that false, illogical, i'm surprised, i thought i had a good relationship, this isn't counseling sessions. we need facts. she didn't provide any, and, therefore, the circumstances of how a story gets started is not as important as where the story goes. >> lynn sweet, ruth marcus, thank you so much. >> thank you. we also have another big story we're following today. new terror concerns ahead of next month's winter games in sochi. are americans safe and why are russian authorities looking for a woman that may be tied to a terrorist threat? we'll analyze the danger next. [ male announcer ] nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. they don't? alka seltzer plus night fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a decongestant. [ inhales deeply ] oh. what a relief it is.
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new word this morning that russian authorities are on the hunt for a suspected woman terrorist they fear may strike at the olympics in sochi. nbc news obtained a document circulating around sochi showing the woman targeted by authorities. they have a pretty good description of her and it's going to area hotels, among other places. this comes after the weekend release of a chilling new video from an islamist military group threatening to attack the olympics. two men who claim they were the suicide bombers of the terrorist attacks in volgograd. with 15 million americans traveling to sochi, some lawmakers are expressing concern, among them congressman king. >> i would not go and i wouldn't send my family. >> richard engel is live in moscow. richard, always good to see you. mike rogers is complaining the
russians are not doing enough to share security information with the united states. i want to play for you what he said yesterday. >> they've now moved some 30,000 armed troops down to the region. that tells you that their level of concern is great, but we don't seem to be getting all of the information we need to protect our athletes in the games. i think this needs to change, and it should change soon. >> so, richard, these worrisome statements we're hearing from u.s. officials, combined with the latest developments, the video, the suspected female terrorist, is there any indication where you are on the ground of increasing concern or any change in the russian security plan? >> well, you could see right now that the russians are actively looking for this woman. she's 23 years old, goes by salima. she's from dagestan, or at least
grew up in dagestan, and she's believed to be a leader of a muslim militant cell. her husband died about six or seven months ago. he was killed by the russian security forces. after that, she's been pretty much on the run and she's believed to have entered the sochi area about ten days ago, and russian authorities are now putting up these wanted posters at the airport, circulating them on hotels, trying to find her. we have also recently heard reports that they are not just looking for her, but up to four women who they think could be involved in a potential future terrorist attack. these could be women who could slip into a venue, could be used as suicide bombers, and these caucus groups, militant groups, have in the past often used female suicide bombers. so i think it's fair to say that the russian authorities are taking this threat very seriously, and at least for this group of women are actively
searching. >> house homeland security chairman mike mccall is heading to sochi today. he's worried if there is an attack, an evacuation would be extremely difficult, if not impossible. what do you know about that? >> it depends on -- obviously, first of all, all of the security arrangements are being organized by the russian government. this is russian territory. this is vladimir putin's baby, if you will. these are his games, and he's deployed tens of thousands of soldiers and intelligence and troops to the sochi area. they've built a new port. there are trains to get there. it would be up to the russians if there was going to be any mass evacuation. it's up to the americans to try and provide some assistance and advice for their own delegations, but u.s. officials repeatedly have stressed to us that this is a russian affair, and they can pretty much just watch and take some of their own precautions. the concerns that we've heard is
that the russians haven't been completely transparent. in previous games, i remember in greece, for example, the greek authorities were completely open with the u.s. authorities, giving them their security plans, telling them how things would happen. in russia, particularly in the security sector, things are operating with a great deal of much more secrecy. >> nbc's richard engel, richard, thank you. now i want to bring in nbc news terrorism analyst evan kohlmann. tell us what we know about the woman suspected terrorist and one thing that caught my ear, she's a widow. same what we saw with another female terrorist we talked about on this program, white widow, they are widows of those killed in the fight, so to speak. >> this is something that's a phenomenon that we've seen pop up most prominently in chechnya, dagestan, in the northern
caucuses. the russians have been talking now for the last six months about this ring of steel surrounding sochi and how no one could possibly get through, and yet this is now turning up more of a line, they are talking about a woman who's the known widow of a killed dagestani extremist, who was able to get into this area within the last two weeks. that's not a very reassuring fact, and if you take this into context of this latest video where the two suicide bombers are talking about a present they are going to deliver to sochi, dot, dot, dot, knowing there's women suicide bombers involved before, it's very worrying. and if you look at the circular the russians are giving out to these hotels, they are showing this woman dressed both with the scarf, as well as dressed very westernized with makeup, with the whole nine yards. and that seems to suggest that they think this woman might be disguised as a tourist. >> let me ask you, too, about the video that just surfaced.
what do you see in it that's particularly relevant to the concerns right now? how credible are the threats? >> i think what's most disturbing is the amount of time the video focuses on the fabrication of explosives, detonators. >> it's very detailed in that regard. >> yeah, whoever put this together wanted to make sure we got the message they were capable of building these devices, they had people willing to be suicide bombers, and they were ready to go. even if we were to say, look, we haven't heard of this group before, and it should be noted, this group not only threatened more conventional attacks, they threatened, as well, to launch chemical attacks against russia, inside russia proper. that's a big threat, to me. it remains to be seen they have that capability, but you have to take that seriously, especially given the context of sochi. >> having said all that, senator king said he wouldn't bring his family to sochi, we see a member of the house going over today to look at the security operation. look, the concerns are
absolutely understandable. are they maybe, perhaps, overstated? >> look, there's always going to be a risk. i wouldn't want to be a person to tell you nothing is going to happen at the olympics. >> since i'm going. >> that's also a good point of reference, but nonetheless, look, terrorism is something that happens very infrequently and effects a very small number of people. i'm not sure that if someone had plans to travel to sochi right now, either as an olympic athlete or as a fan or part of a family delegation, i'm not sure that cancelling those plans right now is really necessarily an appropriate step. >> evan, always good to have you here, thank you. >> thank you very much. president obama promising to reform the nsa and asking congress for help. so will anything really get done? democratic senator richard blumenthal will join me next. [ female announcer ] who are we? we are the thinkers. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our life's work.
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edward snowden may have had help from russians when he exposed nsa surveillance programs. now, officially the fbi says evidence suggests snowden acted alone, but there have been ongoing suspicions he was working with a foreign spy service to get thousands of pages of classified documents. >> i believe there's a reason he ended up in the hands, loving arms, of an agent in moscow. i don't think that's a coincidence. >> you think russians helped snowden? >> i believe there's questions to be answered there. i don't think it was a gee wiz luck event that he ended up in moscow under the handling of the fsb. >> do you agree with chairman rogers he may have had help from the russians? >> he may well have, we don't know at this stage. >> joining me now, richard blumenthal, who services on the armed services committee. thank you for being with me. >> good to be with you. >> what do you think the chances are edward snowden had help from
the russians? >> i think my colleague said it best, we don't know yet. the fbi yesterday reaffirmed its conclusion that he was acting alone, and so far there's simply no evidence that he was acting at the behest of a foreign government or was cultivated to use somebody else's words, representative mccall said he was cultivated. >> in the meantime, of course, we heard from the president on friday ordering members of his administration, including eric holder to look at a new plan to look at the collection of americans' phone records, who should handle that meta data. senator pat leahy says there's going to be legislation. what do you think should happen here? you said the president's plan is the first step but leads a lot of work to be done. is there legislation you can talk about now that you think you can support? >> there is legislation, and i am co-sponsoring it with senator leahy to limit, restrict the
collection of meta data, which the president of the united states clearly indicated is a real direction that he wants to go. you know, i was struck by president obama's reference to the abuse and overreach, the elicit spying and surveillance on civil rights leaders. clearly, he had in mind martin luther king, whose birthday we celebrate today, so the excesses and abuses of surveillance and spying really are very much a danger that we need to guard against. the legislation that i am spearheading, i proposed it some time ago, is to create a constitutional advocate, a privacy protector, and the president embraced that idea. he wants to have a panel of advocates that would appear before the court, at the court's invitation. i think it ought to be a full-time, independent constitutional advocate to protect our rights, but that's a direction i think we will go. and one more point, chris, that
i think is very important, commonly, there's this question, will anything happen? and the answer is, yes, something has to happen. >> let me stop you, if i can, because i think it's a critical point, and it is this, people that heard the same speech you did say, look, there is a punt going on here. a punt into the halls of congress, which has shown through the last couple of years its inability to get anything done, so while there may be a lot of talk about protecting people's privacy while still upholding the security of the united states, in fact, the net effect will be that this was a lot of words and no action. >> very good point, and the answer is, that a key section of the law, section 215, expires at the end of may 2015. a point that is often lost in this debate about whether congress will act, so the defendants of the status quo can't simply play it out. we have, as reformers, a very strong hand to play, because
something has to be done or the law will expire. and second, the president, you're absolutely right, was long on principle, short on prescription or details. that's a job for congress, and that's an opportunity. the president opened the door and provided a blueprint, clearly, he's indicated a need for coarse correction, and now it's our job to fulfill that duty. >> senator richard blumenthal, always good to have you on the program. thank you. >> thank you. new jersey's lieutenant governor adamantly denying allegations that she threatened to hold up sandy relief money over a redevelopment money in that city. nbc's kelly o'donnell was at the lieutenant governor's event this morning. kelly, what can you tell us? >> good morning, chris. the lieutenant governor is addressing these new allegations that really burst on the scene over the weekend from hoboken's mayor dawn zimmer, who had claimed that last may in a conversation the two of them had that the lieutenant governor
linked sandy relief funds for hoboken to a commercial development project, seeking the mayor's support for that project. this blew open this weekend, and today for the first time publicly, the lieutenant governor addressed those allegations and strongly denied them. >> any suggestion, any suggestion, that sandy funds were tied to the approval of any project in new jersey is completely false. >> and the lieutenant governor says that the conversation, the version provided by mayor zimmer is, in her words, "illogical and will not stand the test of scrutiny." she does not deny there was a conversation, but she did not go into any further detail. she further said that she has given a lot of attention to hoboken, she's been there more than a dozen times dealing with
relief aid, so this was an important step in what's been a widening controversy. the mayor of hoboken met with a u.s. attorney on sunday to go over her allegations, to provide documentation she had from that time and promised to testify under oath, so this was the lieutenant governor's first opportunity to speak publicly, and, again, she strongly denies it. chris? >> thank you for that update. when the president of the united states talks about pot, americans start talking, too. president obama creating a buzz over candid comments in a new yorker interview where he said, as has been well documented, i smoked pot as a kid and view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes i smoked as a young person. i don't think it is more dangerous than alcohol. i want to bring in march gee o'maro and chip saltsman. he has admitted this before but is going to the next step about
a drug that's been prohibited, for, i guess, 100 years. i wonder if you think it's going to impact what seems to be already changing attitudes. >> yeah, he probably got a few phone calls from some friends of his who had teenaged daughters and sons like he has. they are coming to me, the president says it's okay. probably had some uncomfortable conversations. it seemed to be a comfortable comment that he made. i don't think this was overly polled, just something he believed. yeah, i was kind of shocked when i read it. the first time, i was really shocked the second time. i think it's going to have some political causes as we've seen what's happened in colorado and other states as this moves forward. pretty important comment, but i don't know if he really thought about it when he made it. >> i think it's important to put into context he put it in, in the interview the president said he's worried ability the disproportionate number of minorities that are arrested, caught with marijuana, and i'm going to quote from the article. "middle-class kids don't get locked up for smoking pot and
poor kids do and african-american kids and latino kids are more likely to be poor and less likely to have the resources and support to avoid unduly harsh penalties." do you think this raises that conversation? >> absolutely. african-americans are four times as likely to be arrested for marijuana usage, even though usage rates are the same across racial and ethnic lines, so there really is an ine kwity and that's a reason you see opinions change on this. as for the president's comment, he's in the company of over half of americans who said they have tried marijuana, including there's no party difference. about as many republicans say they've tried marijuana as democrats, so that's actually a pretty bipartisan issue, and there's bipartisan agreement on that. so you see public opinion is changing, views toward the law are changing, views toward whether it's acceptable are changing, and i think the president's comments reflect
that, and lastly, the concern over is this a good use of government dollars, is this a good way for us to spend our time cracking down on marijuana use when we can be using that as a revenue stream in a lot of states? >> well, let me read to you what diana degette, who pushed for this change in colorado had to say about it. it was a big week in colorado, across the state, recreational marijuana was sold for the first time, and guess what, the world didn't end. chip, let me ask both of you, what do you think the chances are this is where most of the country is moving? are we going to see differences state to state moving on, if not years, even decades? >> i think we're going to see big differences state to state, decades long. i don't think the answer is to legalize it. i think colorado maybe the world didn't end, but i don't think that's going to happen any time soon in most of the states in
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sure people had my reaction, of course it's a teenager. how hard is it going to be to track down who did this? >> it may be very difficult and may take some time. i think the bigger question is, no matter who did it, how can target and other retailers prevent this from happening again? >> because that's the scary thing. you have this massive breach, and is it about our antiquated magnetic strip technology, are we just so far behind europe? what can we do to see that this doesn't happen again, certainly not on this scale? >> well, that's definitely part of it. the magnetic strip credit cards are definitely more susceptible to fraud than the chip and pin that we see around europe and the rest of the world. >> and that magnetic strip is what most, the vast majority of americans have, right? >> that's correct. i think only 1% of cards have the chip and pin. >> why, is it a money thing, is it that much more expensive, would they have to regear everything to make those cards?
>> the retailers would need new equipment to accept the chip and pin cards and the credit card issuers would have to issue new cards. there's a stalemate right now. credit card issuers don't want to issue them until they know the retailers are spending on the equipment, and vice versa. >> i guess there has to be a cost-benefit analysis, which is more expensive, redoing everything or the cost, and there's a very real cost to this kind of breach. >> sure. that's what you hear, a lot of people say that the retailers don't want to do this because they don't see any immediate benefit financially, but then you see a breach like this, which will cost target, i mean, there are estimates billions of dollars, but could be hundreds of millions, so there definitely is an analysis to be done there. >> well, what's the buzz on the inside, is something going to change here? >> i don't think we'll see anything change before 2015, when it's scheduled to as of right now. there are people pushing for it, but a lot needs to happen between now and then. >> jason del rey, great to have you on the program, thank you.
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tell you the truth, at first i didn't realize. in preparation of the speech, it was pointed out i would be speaking from the same pulpit used by dr. king in his sermon on march the 1st, 1968, and that was a profound sermon. dr. king said, and i quote, "somewhere we must come to see that human progress never rolls on the wheels of inevitability. he went on to say, it comes through tireless efforts and persistent work of dedicated individuals who are willing to be co-workers with god." as my mom would say, doing god's work. that's what all of you are all about as you fight for economic justice, racial and gender equality, and trying to stem the tide of new attempts, new
attempts, to restrict the right of our people to vote. it's the everyday actions that you inspire that are going to keep the human progress rolling forward and keep it from sliding back, but we have to admit, we have to admit, i have to admit, i never thought we'd be fighting the fight again on voting rights. >> now when the justices struck down parts of voting rights act, they also challenged congress to amend it, and that's just what a bipartisan group in the house has done, and that comes just days after a pennsylvania judge batted down a law that forced voters to show i.d. to vote. joining me to talk more about this, ari melber and an attorney that writes about law and constitutional writes, judith brown-dianis, good morning. >> good morning, happy king day.
>> happy mlk day. among the protections in this proposed new bill, any state that commits five or more election violations falls under federal supervision. voters who feel they have been discriminated against can sue immediately, and you don't have to prove laws intentionally discriminate, just that the discrimination takes place. real world, why is this important? >> this is important because as we sit here and celebrate martin luther king's birthday, 1967 he gave a speech in which he talked about give us the ballot, and in that speech he talked about the fact that we needed courageous moral leadership in congress to get the vote, and so we're calling on congress to keep its bipartisan effort moving, because we know too many places throughout the country, in the states, that there's partisan manipulation of the vote that is targeting black and latino
voters, young voters, elderly voters, so this voting rights act is important. unfortunately right now what we have as a proposal is a floor and not a ceiling, and so this congress has to be courageous as dr. king said, and move for more protections, because under it, north carolina, which has passed this most oppressive voter law and places like florida that have a history from 2000 on of continuous discrimination against african-american voters are not covered by this new bill. >> in fact, ari, you've written about this and say there's a major hole in this legislation, tell us about it. >> there is a hole. you mentioned in your reporting pennsylvania was striking down a voter i.d. law. what this says is it would patrol places where there are these discriminatory violations and if you have enough, you get into federal supervision, but if the justice department says there's voter i.d. laws that are discriminatory, that doesn't
count towards the supervision, the only thing that would count is a judge saying it. we need to have this as a floor to think about these requirements and what is enough. the other point, you've invited us to talk about this on martin luther king day. we had the 50th anniversary of the march on washington. that was an anniversary of activism. as we go into 2014 and 2015, we'll have the 50th anniversaries of the results, voting rights act of '64 and '65 and it's tremendously positive republicans joined democrats last week in setting this floor. congressman sensenbrenner who's been a leader on this issue, so people who look at the anniversaries and say they are symbolism, no, we're talking about how to continue the legacy and keep it on the books on the federal code. >> someone who's been talking about this always is john louis, of course, the civil rights icon, and he had this to say at the bill's unveiling. >> it is amazing to me, it is
unbelievable, it is almost unreal that we were able to come together so quickly to craft a compromise that both democrats and republicans can find a way to support and move forward. >> a note of optimism, but let me ask you both very quickly, we have less than a minute. judith, what are the chances this gets through? >> i think it's going to get through. we have a bipartisan effort, and it's the voting rights act, and we know that voting is fundamental in this country, and i think they are going to get behind it. >> last time it passed the house by huge majorities, passed the senate with over 90 votes. we know there's a appetite for it, politically, it's going to come down to eric cantor. the votes are on the floor, as we know with this house, the trick is to get motions on to the floor. >> ari melber, judith, thanks to both of you. in honoring the legacy of
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and so this martin luther king day has turned into a busy news day. that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing and co." i'm chris jansing. brian shactman is up next. hey, brian. >> thank you very much. the agenda next hour, new jersey's lieutenant governor responding to accusations she threatened to withhold sandy relief money unless hoboken's mayor got onboard with a redevelopment project. plus, linda stender will weigh in. also, death penalty debate.
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circle, this time his right-hand woman at the center of scandal. dawn zimmer met with u.s. attorneys yesterday, one day after her appearance on "up with steve kornacki." here's what she said on this channel saturday when she accused lieutenant governor kim guadagno. >> the fact is that the lieutenant governor came to hoboken, she pulled me aside in the parking lot, and she said, i know it's not right, i know these things should not be connected, but they are and if you tell anyone, i'll deny it. and so these -- i mean, the bottom line is, it's not fair for the governor to hold sandy funds hostage for the city of hoboken because he wants me to give back to one private developer. >> on the other side, the governor's office denies any federal money was held from hoboken saying in a statement, "governor christie and his re